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Пост N: 16058
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Отправлено: 01.09.11 08:20. Заголовок: Smashing Pumpkins Record Club
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Пост N: 1853
Info: think for yourself - question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
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Отправлено: 27.02.09 05:55. Заголовок: 23
fucking hell, yeah!!!
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Отправлено: 13.03.09 15:32. Заголовок: Andy пишет: Фрэнк К..
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Отправлено: 17.03.09 13:50. Заголовок: Archive Project
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Отправлено: 17.03.09 13:54. Заголовок: Первое письмо: M..
Первое письмо: | цитата: | My job is to work in the archive and work on finding the best items to release. There is a lot to choose from…
The idea of a subscription service is where you can sign up for a yearly subscription, and in return you will receive a guaranteed number of tracks and releases. These releases will be from all eras of the band. Some items may not be up to the quality of a professional release, and may be rawer sounding… This is for the type of fan that is interested in getting unreleased live and studio tracks. This is the Holy Grail. |
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Пост N: 2067
Info: think for yourself - question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
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Отправлено: 17.03.09 15:23. Заголовок: 23
читал на офф.сайте сегодня сию новость, пока не подписался ещё
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Отправлено: 23.03.09 23:13. Заголовок: THE SMASHING PUMPKIN..
| цитата: | THE SMASHING PUMPKINS
ARCHIVE NEWSLETTER #2
Hello again,
Welcome to the second Archive Newsletter. I am now entering the third week on the job, and I just want to say that I’m really excited about the project. I want to get into the more technical details about the archive. One of the biggest problems with storing media that is over 20 years old is tape deterioration. One example of this is the Ignoffo Demos. Mark Ignoffo was a studio engineer that worked with the band in 1988-89. The band would record demos at Reel Time Studios and then sell them at shows. The Moon Demo was a demo tape that was sold at shows in 1989 for $5. The songs from this period would include Stars Fall In, Daughter, and Bye June. These songs have been widely bootlegged out, but the quality has been questionable because many of these were sourced from old cassette tapes. The band has the original reels from those recording sessions in the archive. Throughout the years, these tapes have started to deteriorate and flake. Recently, the band has started to rescue these recordings. A technique to rescue tapes that are starting to flake is through baking. The tapes would be placed in an oven, and baked for a specific period of time. This restores the tape so that it can be transferred. In these cases, we often have one chance to transfer the tape before the tape is lost for good. The Ignoffo Demos were baked for 72 hours! Then they ran them through Pro Tools at 24-bit/96kHz, and the outcome was amazing. They sound so much better than the bootlegged versions that fans have. This would definitely be an upgrade if you already have these songs.
The next step is to rescue other tapes and reels that have started to deteriorate. All of the material in the archive is stored in a climate controlled environment in order to preserve them, and slow down the effects of time. Tapes and reels aren’t the only material that we have to carefully monitor. Paper is another concern for us. I’m currently going through and cataloging the band’s posters. I have found some early posters from the Gish era, and there are a few that have started to show their age. A way to combat this is to store them in acid-free polyester Mylar sleeves. The Library of Congress also uses the same types of sleeves for archival storage. I’m creating a system that will catalog and preserve all of the posters and artwork from the band. Eventually this system will include all of the promotional material that I’ve talked about in my recent blog post. I hope this sheds some light on what we’ve been doing. I’ll talk to you all next week!
Frank
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Пост N: 2157
Info: think for yourself - question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
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Отправлено: 24.03.09 05:03. Заголовок: 23
когда раздача добра будет-то?-)
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Пост N: 2164
Info: think for yourself - question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
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Отправлено: 24.03.09 10:09. Заголовок: 23
Andy
ты сам-то подписался?
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Отправлено: 24.03.09 10:34. Заголовок: Подписался. Пока вот..
Подписался. Пока вот такие вот письма приходят. Это второе. О раздаче добра пока речи не было. Возможно это даже не бесплатное удовольствие будет.
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Отправлено: 21.04.09 09:07. Заголовок: Архивный материал бу..
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Пост N: 2609
Info: think for yourself - question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
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Отправлено: 21.04.09 13:59. Заголовок: 23
всё равно в сеть утечёт, я так думаю.
а тут-то мы и нагрянем нах
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Отправлено: 21.04.09 14:59. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop пишет: вс..
Ziggy Pop пишет: Обязательно. Это и сам Куинто отмечает. |
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Пост N: 2613
Info: think for yourself - question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
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Отправлено: 21.04.09 15:22. Заголовок: 23
долой буржуев!!!!
ВСЁ ДОЛЖНО БЫТЬ ФРИ!!!
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Отправлено: 21.04.09 15:47. Заголовок: С одной стороны о..
С одной стороны обязательно утечёт, с другой CD и уж тем более винил, это не mp3 и даже не flac. Буду надеятся на ebay, так как покупать кота в мешке вступая в фан клуб желания нет никакого
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Отправлено: 21.04.09 19:35. Заголовок: Вот письмо целиком: ..
Вот письмо целиком: Скрытый текст
| цитата: | Hello SP World,
This is the 6th newsletter for the Archives mailing list. I've been here for over 6 weeks, reading and talking to fans about how we should put out the archives. During these past few weeks, we've put out the idea of a subscription service where we would charge $300 a year for 200 releases. We received a lot of feedback, and there are three issues that keep coming back. The first one (a major one) is cost. The majority of fans who have contacted me through e-mail and on the message board have flat out said that they can't afford it. The second issue is that there is a line drawn in the sand between people who want only studio outtakes and demos, and the people who want live shows. I on the other hand am the type of fan who wants everything. Back when I collected everything I could get my hands on with U2, I didn't care what it was. I wanted everything. I even have CD's of drum takes from the Achtung Baby sessions. I just thought there was a lot more people who shared the same sentiment. The third issue is that people wanted CD's. They didn't want to spend the money on digital downloads. People want artwork, liner notes, and something they can hold.
We're going to make some changes to the business model. The first thing we're going to do is throw the $300 subscription service model out the window. The next thing we're going to do is set up a fan club for the band. There will be details about this very soon on SP.com. We're going to look at including a limited edition CD of rare tracks as a special gift if you're a fan club member. Next we're going to sell hard copy releases from the archives. This will be CD's (possibly vinyl) with liner notes, and a special package. These releases will be limited to not much higher than the total number of fan club members. If you're a member of the fan club, you will have GUARANTEED access to purchase these releases. If you're not a fan club member, we will sell whatever is left over once the fan club members have purchased their copies. There might be cases where we might not have any left to sell once fan club members purchase theirs. If you want access to this, you'll want to be a fan club member. The reasoning for tying in the archival releases to the fan club is to get a good perspective on how many copies to print, and what material we'll make available. We know that there are going to be people out there that won't care about the fan club and will rip and torrent this material. I can say that only fan club members will be the ones that will work with us to figure out what to release next, and will be an integral part of documenting the band through picture and sound. If you want to be part of the small community that will have a special relationship with the band, the fan club is the way to go.
I have another piece of good news. We're going to start putting releases out as soon as possible! We're going to start with the early days of the band. Billy talked about the lawsuit with EMI a couple weeks ago. Nothing has changed with the lawsuit; we're still working that out. We're not going to wait on that to start releasing material. That is why we're starting with the early days of the band. This will include rare shows that nobody knows about, demos, and rehearsals. We even have Billy's demos from 1985, after he graduated high school. By doing this under the fan club system, you can buy whatever you want. If we put out a show an '88 show from Iowa, it might sound pretty raw and it might not appeal to everybody. The people that are interested in it can buy it if they want, and it would be an extremely limited edition release. We'll rate shows and put up information on the quality, so you can be sure that you aren't going to buy something you'll be unhappy with. I can assure you that whatever we put out will be the best quality that exists, and will be the definitive version. If we put out a show that already exists in bootleg form, ours will be better quality. If you already have a bootleg copy of a show or demo that we release, think of our version as an upgrade. I can't say an exact date on when we'll start to release stuff, but we're looking at the first releases to come out in fall of this year.
Frank
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Пост N: 2621
Info: think for yourself - question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
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Отправлено: 21.04.09 19:36. Заголовок: 23
подождём, скачаем, оценим.
платить за это не собираюсь ни цента
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Отправлено: 22.04.09 07:26. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop пишет: по..
Ziggy Pop пишет: | цитата: | подождём, скачаем, оценим.
платить за это не собираюсь ни цента. |
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правильно я такого же мнения! |
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Отправлено: 30.05.09 09:19. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop пишет: Лы..
Ziggy Pop пишет: А ну не оскорбляй мои чувства верующего! =) Ziggy Pop пишет: | цитата: | ну и там ещё в конце об издании архивов говорит, мол, -
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but I am starting to believe this will not work
короче, скептически он относится к этой затее. |
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Не, ты не понял, он говорит, что не видит смысла выпускать одиночные архив-релизы, но видит смысл выпустить бокс-сет. |
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Пост N: 2943
Info: think for yourself - question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
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Отправлено: 31.05.09 06:09. Заголовок: 23
Andy пишет: | цитата: | | А ну не оскорбляй мои чувства верующего! =) |
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изыди, сектант!!  Andy пишет: | цитата: | | но видит смысл выпустить бокс-сет. |
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ага, я вижу смысл даже выпустить пару-тройку боксов=))
давай-давай, Корган!! |
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Пост N: 7001
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
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Отправлено: 04.03.10 19:29. Заголовок: 23
обещанного 3 года ждут
Andy
по-моему они все там уснули мертвецким сном
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