Пост N: 4435
Info: www.dawncat.com
Откуда: Леса Подмосковья
Отправлено: 09.12.10 19:06. Заголовок: Корган сейчас активн..
Корган сейчас активно препирается с фанами по поводу значимости и качества своего нынешнего творчества. Препирается, но тем не менее, я думаю, чувствует и понимает, что все далеко не отлично. И мне кажется, пока он не докажет фанам, а также самому себе, что он ещё на что-то способен, пока он по-настоящему (честно) не будет доволен откликом, которое его новое творчество находит у фанов, пока не закончится вся эта драма "old songs vs new songs", не видать нам никаких переизданий, бонусов, боксетов, метро 2000, чикаго сонгс и проч.
Пост N: 12923
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 10.12.10 03:43. Заголовок: Andy пишет: пока не..
Andy пишет:
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пока не закончится вся эта драма "old songs vs new songs", не видать нам никаких переизданий, бонусов, боксетов, метро 2000, чикаго сонгс и проч.
согласен. Мне вообще вся эта истерика "old songs vs new songs" уже поперёк горла, сыт, спасибо. Как-будто нечем ему заняться. А теперь, когда он ещё и на фэйсбуке зарегился, вообще пиздец какой-то.
@Billy Billy Corgan Super major unreal happy SP news coming next week. Plus auction news too. Next week is gonna be big SP week. Thank you to all our great fans 1 Apr
@Billy Billy Corgan Just finished sorting thru over 700 cassette tapes in the SP/BC archives. Whoa. Found lots of interesting stuff I didn't know we had. 6 Apr via txt
@Billy Billy Corgan Sorry for my delay on the 'big announcement', waiting for some documents to be signed before I can go public. Has not dimmed my enthusiasm. 3 hours ago via txt
@Billy Billy Corgan Just found the first live performance of 'Starla', in stereo. Previously I had thought we had it only on one channel. 2 hours ago via txt
@Billy Billy Corgan Just found a version of 'sweet home alabama' on the Siamese Dream session tapes!!! 1 hour ago via txt
@Billy Billy Corgan A did you know fact: at one point our album Pisces Iscariot was instead to be called 'Neptulius'!! 5 minutes ago via txt
то ж не рухлять!!!!! а ценнейший материал!!!!! возможно это последние перлы от Коргны, потомучто нового интересного материала от него уже врядли появится!
Пост N: 4686
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Откуда: Леса Подмосковья
Отправлено: 07.06.11 21:25. Заголовок: The SP archive proje..
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The SP archive project, for which we don't yet have an official nom de plume, is now fully underway. People are being hired, wired, and fired up with this insane pile of stuff to go through. The main focus of our tape transfers is to take any materials from 1985-1994 that are relevant to the Gish, Siamese Dream, or Pisces Iscariot albums and get them into a stable, 96k format. This makes it easier for me to instantly jut around and hear what we have. It is a surreal experience to listen to a demo from 1987 and have no memory of ever recording it, but knowing from the chords and the style that is indeed you that is playing!
A few days ago I started to listen through, in no particular order, to demo tapes related to those early years, and found a lot of ideas that sounded fresh and interesting to me, considering I know now the outcome of those different approaches and interests as I was laying them out then in pursuit of a new sound. Most of the materials would be of little interest to the mainstream fan, but the beauty is we can release these ideas and snippets if we can find the right way to do so. If I had to make a choice today, it would probably be something along the lines of outline the project, and see who might want to buy in with a guarantee that they are assured a limited edition pressing. We all know the songs will be bootlegged, there is no mystery in that anymore, but I feel that because of what these ideas are, in essence a real peek under the covers of how these albums came together, that there will be enough fans who would want to own a physical copy. Putting them together for digital consumption is easy, but probably not going to excite enough people. I know I get motivated when I think about a 20 album vinyl set of my demos from 1985-1994, even if only 500 fans wanted every one, because it means together we get to make something permanent that requires love, and a cover photo, and some liner notes, etc. In essence it is motivating to share more than just a digital file; to make art.
Our main focus in the short term however is to find the relevant songs to be part of the bonus disc on each release, and to get these together in time to get out before Christmas of this year. There are many obvious choices to choose from, for example 'Drown' from the Singles soundtrack and 'Starla', which was the B-side of the UK 'I am One' single for 'Gish' bonus disc. On the surface, if you already own those songs, you might say 'why do I need them again?' Which is a good question I myself ask as a fan. So for example, for 'Drown', we may release an alternate version with has a completely different take of the long end guitar solo, mixed by Butch Vig in 1992. With 'Starla', we've talked about a completely new Kerry Brown mix 2011 style, with the original mix still being available on the 'Pisces Iscariot' record. These of course are those more known titles, but we remain hopeful to find those hidden gems that have never been heard by anyone. For example, I came across a tape the other day where I had played live, right onto an 8 track recorder, 5 songs acoustic, 'Rocket' being one of them. This version I know has never been bootlegged out. But I also found on that same tape 2 unknown songs which are half-written, with me kind of faking lyrics as I often do when I'm writing a song. I never had any intention for anyone to ever hear these versions, and in their raw form are probably not release worthy, at least not commercially. But what I might do is 'finish' the songs now; record a final version after all these years with me on guitar and voice alone, and provide those half-baked versions on the SP facebook page for everyone to enjoy a lost moment in time. So lots of exciting choices as well to come.
Corgan Provides Details on Album Reissues, Archives
As promised in a tweet last night, Billy Corgan provided a status update on the both the progress of and ideas behind the Archive Project. While he gave a brief mention to the current work being done, which he described as taking ”any materials from 1985-1994 that are relevant to the Gish, Siamese Dream, or Pisces Iscariot albums and get them into a stable, 96k format,” Billy also spent quite a bit of time describing a new potential method for releasing work that isn’t worthy of mainstream commercial treatment.
- If I had to make a choice today, it would probably be something along the lines of outline the project, and see who might want to buy in with a guarantee that they are assured a limited edition pressing. We all know the songs will be bootlegged, there is no mystery in that anymore, but I feel that because of what these ideas are, in essence a real peek under the covers of how these albums came together, that there will be enough fans who would want to own a physical copy. Putting them together for digital consumption is easy, but probably not going to excite enough people. I know I get motivated when I think about a 20 album vinyl set of my demos from 1985-1994, even if only 500 fans wanted every one, because it means together we get to make something permanent that requires love, and a cover photo, and some liner notes, etc. In essence it is motivating to share more than just a digital file; to make art.
Corgan also offered some possibilities for reissue bonus material beyond the obvious b-sides:
So for example, for ‘Drown’, we may release an alternate version with has a completely different take of the long end guitar solo, mixed by Butch Vig in 1992. With ‘Starla’, we’ve talked about a completely new Kerry Brown mix 2011 style, with the original mix still being available on the ‘Pisces Iscariot’ record.
Finally, Billy offered another alternative for material that never even saw proper demo treatment:
But I also found on that same tape 2 unknown songs which are half-written, with me kind of faking lyrics as I often do when I’m writing a song. I never had any intention for anyone to ever hear these versions, and in their raw form are probably not release worthy, at least not commercially. But what I might do is ‘finish’ the songs now; record a final version after all these years with me on guitar and voice alone, and provide those half-baked versions on the SP facebook page for everyone to enjoy a lost moment in time.
For those wondering about a timetable, as previously announced the plan is still Christmas of this year for Gish, Siamese Dream, and Pisces Iscariot.
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With ‘Starla’, we’ve talked about a completely new Kerry Brown mix 2011 style
Пост N: 15480
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Отправлено: 08.06.11 05:27. Заголовок: 7
сидел бы ты в своём Чикаго-сити, не дёргался по пустякам, переиздавал бы спокойно архивы на радость поклонникам да почивал на лаврах былых заслуг, так нет же, надо было развести всю эту беспонтовую тиагадерщину, тьфу
ладонь тут не поможет, тут нужна Леди С Поленом из "Твин Пикса" как минимум
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I think about a 20 album vinyl set of my demos from 1985-1994, even if only 500 fans wanted every one, because it means together we get to make something permanent that requires love, and a cover photo, and some liner notes, etc. In essence it is motivating to share more than just a digital file; to make art.
звучит как всегда красиво, но посмотрим, сбудется ли. В любом случае, переиздания на cd куплю обязательно. Насчёт винила подумаю.
да выпустит, куда он денется. А потом нас ждут переиздания MCIS, Adore и Machina, это тоже радует. Machina правда и так записана очень круто, там звук улучшать не к чему, имхо.
Record Club launches with free demos of “Drown,” “Geek U.S.A.”; L.A. design firm hired to build “the new SmashingPumpkins.com”
The Smashing Pumpkins Record Club emerged from its cocoon today, busting out with a new SmashingPumpkins.com splash page by Los Angeles design firm Uprising Creative—and that firm says it is on the hook to the band for more than one fancy graphic:
We’re stoked to be working with Topspin and Smashing Pumpkins on both the new smashingpumpkins.com and the new Smashing Pumpkins Record Club (SPRC). SPRC is going to be amazing, with Billy releasing previously unreleased demos, videos, photos, and other content periodically for members-only.
Our first step is today’s launch of the initial SPRC splash page and the release of the “Drown” 8-track demo. In the coming months, we’ll be doing a ton of behind the scenes work getting SPRC and the new site built out.
In a new video embedded on the splash page, Pumpkins leader Billy Corgan discusses the demo recording of “Drown” that is given as a free download to anyone who proffers their email address.
Regarding the future of the Record Club, Corgan says, “There’ll be so much free stuff; I’m not even joking.”
Also on the splash page, free, and not even a joke is a “secret” download of a nearly instrumental 2-track demo of “Geek U.S.A.”
Topspin Media, the other SPRC partner referenced by Uprising, bills itself as “the most powerful direct-to-fan platform on the planet.” (And before you say “Topspin is just a shopping cart”, ask, does your shopping cart have this?) Topspin’s clients include George Strait, Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All, Toad the Wet Sprocket, and David Lynch.
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