crowd - 'Tool! Tool! Tool! Tool!' Maynard - 'You'll have to be patient, Tool will be up next. We're Crystal Pistol, we'll be gone in a minute, so please be patient. Thank you, good night. Baa! Baa! Baa! Moo!'
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 21308
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Отправлено: 24.10.12 15:25. Заголовок: 07/15/1998
Tool_07/15/1998_Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA @ Wings Stadium
Source: DAT --- Sound Board > XLR > Sony TCD-D8 (line-in) @ 48 KHZ Position: Front of Rail Transfer: DAT-M > Tascam DA-20 > coax > Audiophile 24/96 > Sound Forge > WAV (transfer by cu.org/GSP)
Notes A: This recording was given to a friend by the taper who subsequently traded it to his friends who subsequently made poor decisions and gave it to people who torrented it with improper + incorrect source information while taking a self-servicing, hypocritical & self-serving stance of "anti-elitism" w/o understanding that it was not about a concept of "sharing" but a concept of "real relationships, friendships get tarnished from people not keeping their word". As it is, this recording is sublime in & of it's natural, non-tampered with form. That said, there are all sorts of fools who have downloaded random CDR rips (there were never any DAT clones of this in circulation, ever) & attempted to "remaster" this recording. Why? Hell if I know - everyone seems to think they can add something interesting when there is, simply, not one thing that anyone could add to this recording. That said, the source information above is correct & 100% verified thus all other source information are inaccurate & not real.
Notes B: I think people would be surprised about how low the recording's levels are at. Better to be safe than sorry, right? Yeah. In 48khz one can definitely hear nuances that are lost in the CDR versions at 44.1khz. Hard to describe; hearing this on DAT leaves one with a sense of intimacy with the band that is just lost on an AUD recording. This is the only known, verified sound board recording of Tool post-1993 known to exist. The existence or creation of this was a fluke & a happenstance of fate - let's just say that it was an oversight on the part of a few parties. The Tool SBD capture was definitely a covert, stealth operation & although not sanctioned by anyone, really, somehow this taper, Jeff, managed to pull off perhaps the greatest capture of Tool - ever. The DAT tape has about 12 minutes of intro music. Then, the recording begins with a cut-in of Flood. What I think happened is the taper hit pause or stop in the unit, when the band came on stage he thought it was recording (which it was not) & he pressed record (again) when he checked. Still, this is... well... this is a real SBD recording. Really, this recording continues to, simply, blow my mind. I doubt there will ever be another person to accomplish such a monumental achievement; a SBD Tool recording. Among other recordings, this is definitive evidence of the skill that this taper had and why he is one of the most accomplished Tool tapers - ever, period. So your friend figured out how to work a piece of (sorta high tech) technology? So you pulled 5 sources at a Tool show? So you video taped a show with 14 video camera all in HD while smoking crack while getting head from a midget at a Tool show? This guy pulled a SBD of Tool in 1998. I encourage any & everyone to attempt to pull something as cool as this recording. Go ahead, do it! Oh wait - no, you aren't. And... what a set list. Man, tops!
MJK: "This is a very special song. It goes out to a very special person. It goes out to Magilla Gorilla's sister, Camilla."
Source B: DAT --- Core Sound Binaurals > Sony TCD-D8 (Oade Bros Mod II) @ 48 KHZ Position: Front of Stack, Right Transfer: DAT-M > Tascam DA-20 > coax > Audiophile 24/96 > Sound Forge > WAV (transfer by cu.org/GSP) Taper: Jeff Sebastianelli Gen: Master Recording or "0" Generation (in WAV)
Notes / 2009: Absolutely superb recording - flawless? Close to it, that's for damn sure. Recorded on a 90m DDS tape, the master itself is still in good shape as it is free of deterioration. As I cloned a DAT-1 of this recording I wondered when the last time the master had been played; must have been at least a few years? I would imagine so. One of things I like about this particular set is that they tossed in a little Crawl Away, Jimmy & 4º in one show; something they did not do a lot during this era. Recording is crisp, clean & clear which is a nice match to this stunning performance. I don't know, it seems that Tool was really able to deliver the goods during this era. There is not one slip-up on part of the band, throughout this recording. Highly recommended as a mandatory listen!
Notes / 2001: Wow. Great, I mean great recording. I am not positive nor do I have really any real proof other than what I hear but I suspect that the same taper of the 11.23.96 show (few others as well) is the same taper as this one. This was most likely taped front of stack as well - CSBs seem to perform supremely under such stress. The sound is very, very clear & I'm sure someone somewhere has said that this recording is sound-board; as it sounds that good. Crowd noise is almost completely lacking - which is a good thing. The performance, well, what can you say? Tool seems to be riding high on a very nice selling album & are playing to packed venues all over the world. They should be playing in top form & they are. In America, rabid fans mosh to the music as college-fans record them. I only hope the taper of this show was utilizing ear-plugs; being FOS. Seriously, this is one show that every Tool fan should enjoy.
Пост N: 21336
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Отправлено: 28.10.12 11:53. Заголовок: adam jones
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 21338
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Отправлено: 28.10.12 12:26. Заголовок: 23 november 1996
Tool_11/23/1996_Philadelphia, PA, USA @ The Electric Factory
01 Third Eye (12:51) 02 Stinkfist (5:49) 03 Forty Six & 2 (06:20) 04 Eulogy (09:49) 05 Prison Sex (OTRM version) (07:09) 06 Pushit (10:26) 07 H. (07:59) 08 Merkaba / Sober (11:28) 09 Opiate (08:17) 10 Ænema (08:09)
this bootleg is also known as: Dirge / Third Leg / Third Eye / Vagina Whistles
цитата:
MJK: (before "Pushit") "Ever have someone love you so much that they tried to kill you? Or perhaps suck you down into a hole? And you had to kill them to get away? Me either."
цитата:
MJK: "So, any of you ever watch those Warner Bros cartoons? Sometimes there's that one where the guy is having trouble making a decision; he's got an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other. Seems pretty obvious right? Usually the angel is the one that's trying to give the good advice, devil's supposed to be giving bad advice and trying to get him to do what is going to be bad for him. It's not always that simple though, most times their not really angels or devils, they are just friends giving you advice, looking out for your best interest but not really understanding what is going to be best for you, so, it comes down to you. You need to make a decision yourself. This song is called H."
Source B: DAT --- Core Sound Binaurals > Sony TCD-D7 (Oade Bros Mod II) @ 48 KHZ Position: Front of Stack, Right Transfer: DAT-M > Tascam DA-20 > coax > Audiophile 24/96 > Sound Forge > WAV (transfer by cu.org/GSP) Taper: Jeff Sebastianelli Gen: Master Recording or "0" Generation (in WAV)
Notes: Complete Show. This is not VHS sourced, this is the real thing.
Notes: At one point there were some other notes regarding this particular source. There was mention about how towards the late 1990's how someone the owner of the DAT Master traded with ended up selling this recording, in an incomplete form (minus the end of 3rd Eye & Stinkfist) to some less than desirable company where it was pressed onto both CDR & silver discs being sold all over the world. Also, the aforementioned recording was called things like "Dirge" or "Third Leg" being recorded at "Houston, TX on 12/12/1996 @ Cullen Auditorium" (obviously wrong information, Tool played in FL on the 12/11 & in TN on 12/13; no way a trip to TX would make sense between). For more information on this, click on that link. There was also mention how up until 2004 only incomplete recordings of this were in circulation. However, at one point, cu.org had in it's possession this master recording; the DAT itself. 12, 13 years old. I made myself a DAT-1 of this in my own mind legendary performance &, hands-down, legendary recording. Sure, this is a standard set list from this era, however, this recording is still the gold standard for which other Tool audience recordings are judged. The clarity, crispness & overall intensity -- it is easy to understand how many, many people truly thought that this was a SBD recording. I think that says quite a bit. Decided to re-transfer this recording so, finally, a master>transfer of this will be able to replace all of the inferior transfers. The 'complete' version floating around right now in la-la cyber-land is from an unknown CDR so, this, definitely is an upgrade. This recording should be the cornerstone of your Tool collection, it is that good.
MJK: "Do you know that punk rock is coming back? Last beer for you buddy."
Source: Soundboard > Analog Cassette-1 Gen: 3rd Gen Cassette > CD (please excuse the very basic source info but deal)
Notes (2006): This was torrented on dimeadozen.org by CU.org in October, 2006. To most people, this was a recording that would be considered "new" however there were a LOT of collectors who had this recording & the other SBD torrented, 01/27/1993. Among other issues associated with this, collectors were using this to attempt to extract X amount of recordings for this source, thereby creating more of a "value" for it. Sort of like an underground, black market Tool-live-recording trade. Other variables aside, by torrenting this recording, that removed the value placed on this. This was also released in remembrance to one of our one, Bjorn AKA onebear. The earliest known live performance around in any trade capacity this is, essentially, one of the most important live recordings of Tool known to exist.
Notes (old 1999): Surprise! Maybe you came across this link by accident, maybe on purpose - either way, it is a hidden review... sort of like a Tool live recording 'Easter Egg'. There are others on this site, good luck finding them. If someone can name all of them, I'll give a prize of some kind. Although I believe that a fair amount of people have never heard of this recording, it is worth mentioning here, since I bet no one will ever find this. Haha. Anyway, certain people do have this recording and I have a good suspicion that this may make it out in some capacity as some people have given this to their friends, which is a cool thing to do. Although, some of these same people claim to be altruistic and saints - think we all know that people that proclaim to be something are most likely the opposite. Agreed? The vocals are very high in this mix, the bass is low, the guitar is low and the drums are present but not overpowering. Not like MJK's voice is. Whew. Even while living in an apartment in California working at a "Hell's Pizza" place (am I kidding? No.) you can hear, with this indisputable proof, the power of his voice. Will blow you away. This is the earliest known recording of Tool - ever. Although I am sure that somewhere there are even older shows ;o) As it is, this SBD recording has a little bit of high-frequency tape hiss that coats the show and due to the couple generations (and years) it took to get this on CD in some capacity, there is some tape hiss. This is hardly an issue though is it? As a note, I have encountered at least two other tape>CD transfers other than my transfer. That said, if you run across a CD copy of this show your CD time may vary from someone else's slightly. However, all transfers are incomplete and have the exact same setlist and flaws. Enjoy them.
Notes: Very accurate / precise / professional recording of an intense performance. This is, hands down, the best source for this performance + quite possibly one of the best audio captures of 2002. Enough said?
MJK: "This song like all songs is about ass-sex" <huh?>
version 3
media type: FLAC source: Assisted Listening Device > unknown DAT + MBHO ka200n > MBHO Actives > JK Labs DVC V-12 > Sony PCM-M1 > FLAC taper: unknown trade status: Can Trade
notes: This is a matrix of version 1 and version 2. BLG did a great job of mixing these together
Source A: DAT --- MBHO KA200 > JK Laboratories DVCV-12 > Sony PCM M1 Source B: Unverified but Reported Info: DAT --- Sound Board (SBD) > FM > Assisted Listening Device (ALD) (unknown model) > Sony PCM-M1 Source C: Source A @ 65% + Source B @ 35% (mix by Per CLS)
Notes: This is a rather interesting creation. I think that enough has been said about both Source A + B so there is little reason to go over that in detail yet again except to say that both are rather different but also very nice & unique captures of what Tool can create - live. Now, mixed together with the proper EQ & patience, a rather interesting bastard-child is created. Not only are the delicacies of the ALD preserved but the live & intense feelings of the MBHO AUD source is simultaneously preserved. The merging of these two almost contrasting audio sources gives one a rather different listening experience. This may be rather interesting for collectors and also anyone to check out, at least to see what is possible with a home computer & a decent software program. Since the ALD source has fade-outs/ins on it, that is also on this matrix. However, it is rather difficult to hear where where the ALD goes out & in as the mixing was done rather nicely. This creation has a rather surreal, unique vibe to it. In closing, it should be noted that different people already have or will create other matrix's - so, make sure you keep in mind which version you attain.
Notes - Technical: This is the closest thing to a 2001/2002-era sound board that collector's, fans & the proletariat may ever hear. In actuality, this is from the mixing-desk & is then broadcasted on an FM signal. The show was mixed on-the-fly to an FM band (that does not have the same amount of range due to being broadcasted as an FM signal). There are quite a bit more technical items that some people may be interested in but I would not be the best person to comment on anything other than what I have already. If someone has more technical info & can better explain what it is I am saying, I welcome you to email me & let me know.
Notes - Bootlegging: There is one thing I would like to mention that is very important. Like all live recordings of Tool, let's keep these off of ebay & other public places (ie: record shows) where it is for sale. Selling live recordings is possibly the worst thing a Tool fan can do. For numerous reasons. The most important one that springs to my mind is: selling Tool live recordings makes it even more difficult for tapers who simply want to record the band in all of it's glory. When a band like Tool observes live recordings of themselves on sale, it pisses them off for a myriad of reasons including "assholes who sell bootlegs for 30-60 bucks dont care about the quality and they make all the money" [08/04/02 @ 05:04:32]). If anything and at best, they barely tolerate people who tape/trade. Since this particular recording is pretty much open-game let's all do our part to make sure people don't try to make a profit off of this. After all, a taper somewhere managed to -do- this & send it off for fans to enjoy. I doubt he did it for some dumb-ass to make $20 off of it. if we all work together for a common goal, maybe Tool would relax about taping & whatnot if they realized that fans do not sell their stuff & will take matters into their own hands to prevent that from occuring in the first place.
Пост N: 21362
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Отправлено: 04.11.12 17:52. Заголовок: 08/13/1998
Tool_08/13/1998_Morrison, CO, USA @ Red Rocks Amphitheatre
01 Part Of Me (4:08) 02 Eulogy (10:04) 03 Stinkfist (with Buzz from The Melvins) (7:38) 04 You Lied (Peach cover) (with Buzz from The Melvins) (8:27) 05 Dr. Timothy Leary 'Think for Yourself Speech') > 46 & 2 (8:02) 06 Merkaba > Sober (9:50) 07 Pushit (alt. version) (14:08) 08 No Quarter (Led Zeppelin cover) (12:05) 09 Ænema (10:56)
#encore break#
10 Opiate > Flood (13:38)
цитата:
MJK: "Thank you very much for being so patient. This last song, most people mistake it for being a song about bad choices in real estate. Some people think it's about rectal water sports. And uh, that's true, it's about both those things, but more importantly, it's about getting back to what matters. It's about remembering you connection with each other. It's about choosing compassion over fear. It's about diving back into that pool of the collective unconscious and learning how to swim again."
Source: DAT --- Marcsounds > Denon DTR-80P
Notes: I am relatively confident that "Part Of Me" was taken from this performance & put on the official "Salival" release back in 2000. Some people have gone so far as to say that this performance is legendary. I shall not go that far but there were some rather unique elements to this performance including a very tasty setlist. This recording was rather "hidden" for a number of years until a resourceful Colorado taper discovered it. Surprising that there are not other versions floating around. The source in circulation (there are no verified DAT copies around, only CD) has track splits at transitions as, taking a guess, the tracks were not split at sector boundaries. As it is, this is common - if you have smooth track transitions then I would like to know. It is doubtful though. It is odd that there is no specific information as to what model # the microphones are...
Notes: I have a Casio DA-R100 which is the exact same DAT recorder (made by the same company but with different brand names) as the Denon DTR-80P. The DAT used for this show is not the compact & flashy DATs or the easy-to-use Mini Discs... this is a larger than average recorder.
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