Smashing Pumpkins to play Forecastle Fest in Louisville, Kentucky
Break out your fancy hats and mint juleps: The Smashing Pumpkins will be playing downtown Louisville, Kentucky at the 9th Annual Forecastle Festival on July 10th! They’re scheduled to headline the Saturday night slot of the 3-day event, which also features The Flaming Lips, Widespread Panic, Spoon, DEVO (!) and a whole slew of others.
Full lineup here and schedule here. For more information about ticket options, including how to dock your boat in a VIP slip to enjoy the show, click here. And if you’re considering the boat option, call me.
Looks like the summer US tour dates are starting to trickle in; can’t wait for more!
UPDATE: Mosey on over to Consequence of Sound to enter their giveaway for a pair of passes to the event! Or try your luck for weekend passes over at Paste Magazine! Or maybe you’d like to upgrade and win VIP passes at JamBase. We’ll keep our eyes peeled for more contests…
Smashing Pumpkins announce US tour dates via Facebook
In a string of recent status updates to the Smashing Pumpkins’ official Facebook page, it looks like we have the first announcement of their upcoming summer tour which begins in just over a month in the Midwest. Though a press release is reportedly coming soon, here is the initial list of tour dates!
Also, for fans not in this hemisphere, the Pumpkins “also plan to tour South America and Australia in 2010 and hope to return to the U.S. later this year.”
We will keep you posted as information becomes available!
July 6 – Cleveland, OH – House of Blues July 8 – Grand Rapids, MI – Orbit Room July 9 – Columbus, OH – Newport Music Hall July 10 – Louisville, KY – Forecastle Festival July 12 – Baltimore, MD – Rams Head Live July 13 – Richmond, VA – The National July 15 – Norfolk, VA – The Norva July 16 – Charlotte, NC – Fillmore July 17 – Charleston, SC – Music Farm July 19 – Orlando, FL – House of Blues July 20 – Ft. Lauderdale, FL – Revolution LIVE July 21 – Tampa, FL – The RITZ Ybor July 23 – New Orleans, LA – House of Blues Howlin’ Wolf (UPDATE: Date not confirmed) July 24 – Memphis, TN – Minglewood Hall (UPDATE: Date not confirmed) August 7 – Tokyo, JP – Marine Stadium / Messe August 8 – Osaka, JP – Maishima / Summer Sonic August 10 – Tokyo, JP – Tokyo Studio Coast August 11 – Tokyo, JP – Tokyo Studio Coast
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Отправлено: 03.06.10 08:07. Заголовок: Pumpkins plan pre-co..
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Pumpkins plan pre-concert sets of new songs for invited fans
A press release announcing the Smashing Pumpkins’ summer tour dates reads in part:
[BILLY] CORGAN and his band mates–guitarist JEFF SCHROEDER, drummer MIKE BYRNE and new bassist NICOLE FIORENTINO—are planning to invite select fans to attend their sound checks (details TBA). “We are going to do something unique, which is play an invite-only set during sound check of almost all new, unreleased songs,” says Billy. “We’re still figuring out a way to make it possible for some of the fans who’ll be in the line outside waiting to get in for that.”
для особо одарённых будут исполнены новые песни
Desire
Пост N: 1633
Откуда: Россия, Подмосковье
Отправлено: 03.06.10 15:54. Заголовок: Нам о концерте тольк..
Нам о концерте только мечтать...
Ziggy Pop
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Отправлено: 03.06.10 16:00. Заголовок: ага, я смотрю в Япон..
ага, я смотрю в Японии ещё несколько дат выступлений добавились, чёрт...
Страна Восходящего Солнца так близка и так дорога по деньгам, меня это убивает, мля...
Desire
Пост N: 1634
Откуда: Россия, Подмосковье
Отправлено: 03.06.10 16:03. Заголовок: И хочется, и колется..
И хочется, и колется :) У нас хотя бы просто вариантов нет (ну в пределах разумного:) )
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 9644
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Отправлено: 03.06.10 16:05. Заголовок: Desire пишет: У нас..
Desire пишет:
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У нас хотя бы просто вариантов нет (ну в пределах разумного:) )
в Европе если даты будут - поезжай
Desire
Пост N: 1635
Откуда: Россия, Подмосковье
Отправлено: 03.06.10 18:11. Заголовок: Точно :) Не, я не до..
Точно :) Не, я не до такой степени фан. Мне бы в Москву =)
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 9814
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Отправлено: 10.06.10 14:02. Заголовок: Billy Corgan lands a..
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Billy Corgan lands a shot against “major record labels” on @TopTweets
- "Thom Yorke of Radiohead warns young bands to not sign with major record labels. Agreed! Avoid the Devil's business young-ins"
Andy
aka Макс Dawncat
Пост N: 4189
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Отправлено: 10.06.10 16:09. Заголовок: Им с Томом легко гов..
Им с Томом легко говорить, им-то лейблы уже не нужны..
Ziggy Pop
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Smashing Pumpkins add July 26 date in New York City
As ‘reported’ by the blog Brooklyn Vegan and seemingly confirmed by the messy and messed-up list of tour dates at SmashingPumpkins.com, the Smashing Pumpkins will be playing at the 3,000-capacity venue Terminal 5 in Manhattan on Monday, July 26.
As it stands now, this would be the 13th and last date on the band’s summer tour of the eastern United States.
UPDATE: A posting to the Pumpkins’ Facebook page suggests that the concert is being promoted in some way by Spin Magazine and will be “streamed live.” The posting also says that the initially planned July 23-24 dates in New Orleans and Memphis will not take place.
Andy
aka Макс Dawncat
Пост N: 4193
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Отправлено: 11.06.10 19:37. Заголовок: Вторая часть интервь..
Пост N: 9941
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Отправлено: 13.06.10 19:44. Заголовок: хорошее интервью ..
хорошее интервью
цитата:
"Somebody like me is still supposed to represent some value that doesn't mean anything anymore. Personally, I wish those values could mean something. I wish there was a reason to uphold those values across the board culturally, because I thought those were good values to have. I think the values that great artists like Kurt Cobain and Neil Young and Johnny Cash all represented, those were important.
цитата:
"I took a lot of inspiration from those artists, and many others, who had great ethics and great concepts of ethics; those are all gone now. Basically, people talk about the ethics, but they don't mean anything anymore. I still hear that and feel that, but it doesn't have anything to do with the survival and the future of The Smashing Pumpkins, which is ultimately what I have to be concerned about.
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"So I'm happy to be in a place where I sort of just stuck my flag in the sand and said, 'OK, this is what I'm going to do for the next three or four years - like it, don't like it, it's cool. And because I've placed the core of my energy back on music, and not on all the other stuff I used to worry about, including having a dysfunctional band…or two…I feel like that's put me back at the center of my ethics - not somebody's opinion of what it should be like.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10059
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Pumpkins’ pre-show sets for “first 20 or so people in line”
June 23, 2010
So says Billy Corgan, in a pair of tweets this evening:
Here is some SP news…first 20 or so people in line at each up-coming shows get to come in for the souncheck pre-show set. All new songs!
New songs meaning songs recently written with the band + not yet recorded. With maybe an oldie for fun.We’ll play probably for a half hour.
Corgan also noted that he will be continuing his advocacy for the band Rush on Friday when its members receive a star in the Walk of Fame on Hollywood Boulevard.
UPDATE:
In additional tweets, Corgan says that longtime Chicago glam rockers Kill Hannah will tour in support of the Smashing Pumpkins along with Bad City, and that the next Teargarden by Kaleidyscope song “will definitely be out for the tour.”
Пост N: 10093
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Отправлено: 25.06.10 15:28. Заголовок: 23
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“A Note from Billy” on original band, recent band, latest band
10:28 pm // Thursday, June 24, 2010
Billy Corgan has posted a letter to fans in advance of the Smashing Pumpkins’ upcoming tour. Corgan speaks both about the long-ago and recent history of his band, and he praises tour-supporting acts Kill Hannah and Bad City.
The letter is light on news, though Corgan does announce that the next Teargarden by Kaleidyscope song will be released on July 6, coinciding with the first scheduled date of the tour.
Пост N: 10099
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Отправлено: 26.06.10 05:30. Заголовок: 777
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“A Note from Billy” on original band, recent band, latest band
письмо всё так же несёт в себе заряд собственной правоты и уверенности в том, что Корган делает на данном этапе своей жизни. Впрочем, это можно отнести к любым из его интервью за последние несколько лет, особенно за последний прошедший год.
посмотрим, что там за новая песня выйдет.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10104
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Отправлено: 26.06.10 08:52. Заголовок: 777
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Album of “The Rock & Roll Party Tour” rehearsal photos posted to Pumpkins’ Facebook account:
Пост N: 10114
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Отправлено: 27.06.10 06:02. Заголовок: June 30 Smashing Pum..
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June 30 Smashing Pumpkins concert in L.A. announced, sells out
As the venue had hinted over the past few days via Twitter, the Smashing Pumpkins will give a concert at the small Viper Room in West Hollywood this coming Wednesday. Tickets for the event went on sale this morning with no advance announcement, and they are sold out. This is now set to be the first date on the Pumpkins’ incipient U.S. tour.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10178
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Smashing Pumpkins hope fans, radio will “Freak” for next single
The song “Freak” will ship digitally to Modern and Active Rock radio on July 6 courtesy of Martha Music/CO5 Music, and the official impact date will be July 20.
“Freak” will be the fifth song released for the Pumpkins’ Teargarden by Kaleidyscope album, and the first since the band’s release of the first physical EP from that project. Like the four previous Teargarden tracks, “Freak” was performed by the Billy Corgan-led band Spirits in the Sky during live performances in California last summer. The song received particular notice by being the only Corgan original played at the first Spirits performance, a short set during a multi-act memorial concert for deceased Seeds frontman Sky Saxon.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10185
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Отправлено: 01.07.10 04:59. Заголовок: “Now it’s time ..
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“Now it’s time to start living this album in public.”
Billy Corgan has given a phone interview to John Soeder of the Cleveland Plain Dealer in advance of next week’s sold-out Smashing Pumpkins concert at that city’s House of Blues. An excerpt:
[John Soeder:] Why are you taking the new lineup on tour at this point?
[Billy Corgan:] I really want us just to play and come together as a band.
Up to this point, the songs were written more in a test tube. They weren’t really written in a band construct. With the new songs I’m writing now, I’m back to writing how I used to write, where I’m writing with the band. I bring in songs every day and we’re rehearsing them and people say “I like that” or “What do you think about that?” or “Can we change that?”
Basically, the band becomes the feedback machine, and their playing and their excitement have everything to do with the way the music turns out. Right away, this unit is giving me that same feeling that I used to get with the original band. I get that really immediate excitement for the material, and it seems to elevate the material.
I’m really excited for the fans to see this lineup of the band. I think this is a very credible lineup, as far as an organic band. It’s not just like we put some people together to play the songs. I really believe this is going to be a band here.
[John Soeder:] Everyone is looking for the new music-industry paradigm. Do you feel good about your approach?
[Billy Corgan:] I do.
When we were younger . . . you would release your record, you would be on MTV or whatever and then after some point people would just want you to go away. Like, "I need a break from you guys."
Those days are over. You need to be virtually present.
There's so much going on that you can't afford to go away for two years
This approach is more consistent with what artists are into. They just want to play, and they want to be involved.
Also, time has become level. I meet 15-year-olds and I'm like, "What are you listening to?" They're like, "Led Zeppelin, the Cure, the Killers." They're not thinking, "They're from the past."
They're all from the past, and they're all from the future.
New-look Smashing Pumpkins start world tour at Los Angeles club
Sometime after 8pm PT tonight, Billy Corgan will take the mic in front of 250 onlookers at the Viper Room on Sunset Strip to warm up for/kick off the first Smashing Pumpkins tour since 2008. He’ll be backed by the brand-new rhythm section of bassist Nicole Fiorentino and drummer Mike Byrne, with guitarist Jeff Schroeder — a veteran by now of 160-some Pumpkins gigs since the band’s revival — still standing at stage left.
This post will be updated with the most significant items that turn up over the course of the night. None of the HU bloggers are on scene, but we’re monitoring the Internets for news and have been assembling a list of Twitter users who will be attending the concert.
There will not be a soundcheck performance for invited fans tonight, nor will tour-supporting bands Kill Hannah and Bad City appear. According to the Viper Room site, preshow entertainment will be provided by Los Angeles bartender/bass player DJ Jamie Scrap.
Пост N: 10200
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Отправлено: 02.07.10 06:00. Заголовок: 2010
группа отыграла первый концерт своего стартующего мирового турне
цитата:
30.06.2010 - Viper Room; West Hollywood, CA, US
Set:
•Astral Planes •Ava Adore •Hummer •As Rome Burns •A Song for a Son •Bleeding the Orchid •Stand Inside Your Love •Bullet with Butterfly Wings •Widow Wake My Mind •Perfect •Owata •Cherub Rock •That's the Way (My Love Is) •United States •Love Is the Sweetest Thing [Ray Noble] (abandoned)
The Smashing Pumpkins played the rather small stage at L.A.’s Viper Room as a warm up to their upcoming tour. The show was sold out as expected, and photographer Andrew Youssef (who celebrated his birthday by taking these shots of the show) says the newest lineup was pretty good. That’s including the band’s 20-year-old drummer Mike Byrne.
The band played a mix of old and new Smashing Pumpkins, though there was one big omission. Youssef says the show was going well until Billy Corgan took out a ukulele for a solo on new song “Love Is.” The crowd wouldn’t quiet down, so they band cut their set short, without playing “Today.”
They also cut out their new single “Freak,” (from their huge Teargarden By Kaleidyscope project).
Zero
Админ
Пост N: 3514
Откуда: Россия, Пенза
Отправлено: 02.07.10 07:45. Заголовок: расскажите че Корган..
расскажите че Корган не стал доигрывать эти треки "Love Is the Sweetest Thing. Freak Today
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10209
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Отправлено: 02.07.10 07:48. Заголовок: они их решили вообще..
они их решили вообще не играть
Zero
Админ
Пост N: 3515
Откуда: Россия, Пенза
Отправлено: 02.07.10 10:38. Заголовок: а чеже он тогда сказ..
а чеже он тогда сказал I love you all, but I'm too old for this shit я так и не понял что его растроило, что он плюнул и ушел со сцены.
dzeen
Пост N: 133
Info: twitter.com/dzeen
Откуда: Москва
Отправлено: 02.07.10 10:57. Заголовок: посмотрел видео на c..
посмотрел видео на cherub rock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPCXRQxQfbU) - говно какое-то, а не барабаны... *извините*
Philosopher
Пост N: 1925
Откуда: Россия, Новосибирск
Отправлено: 02.07.10 12:59. Заголовок: потому что Корган эг..
потому что Корган эгошизоид , поэтому и не стали доигрывать
посмотрел видео на cherub rock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPCXRQxQfbU) - говно какое-то, а не барабаны... *извините*
мне вот барабаны похеру. вот запилы Коргана в Аве Адор звучит ужасно, вообще словно не в тему. мне вообще не нравиться. мне кажется Корган стал перебарщивать с ними, типа показывает какой он виртуоз, а песня из-за этого страдает. все естественно ИМХО.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10231
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Отправлено: 02.07.10 13:52. Заголовок: Zero пишет: а чеже ..
Zero пишет:
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а чеже он тогда сказал I love you all, but I'm too old for this shit я так и не понял что его растроило, что он плюнул и ушел со сцены.
народ болтал, Лысый залупился, чего тут непонятного?=)
да-да, барабаны не впечатляют.
Zero
Админ
Пост N: 3518
Откуда: Россия, Пенза
Отправлено: 02.07.10 13:59. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop пишет: на..
Ziggy Pop пишет:
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народ болтал, Лысый залупился, чего тут непонятного?=)
какой он бл*** нервный!
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10235
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Отправлено: 02.07.10 14:05. Заголовок: Zero пишет: какой о..
Zero пишет:
цитата:
какой он бл*** нервный!
ты не шаришь, у него тонкая душевная организация, бл***ь=)))
Antares
Пост N: 784
Откуда: РФ, МО, Луховицы
Отправлено: 03.07.10 16:19. Заголовок: Zero пишет: типа по..
Zero пишет:
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типа показывает какой он виртуоз
Что касается гитарных пассажей, ни хрена он в них не виртуоз. Вот композитор и аранжировщик - это да.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10250
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Corgan gives interview on Rush, punk, marketing, and next EP (!?)
Billy Corgan’s pre-tour media blitz continues as Jeff Niesel of snarky urban weekly Cleveland Scene has posted a new interview with the Smashing Pumpkins frontman. Niesel explores genre, labeling the band “post-punk/goth/metal” and asking Corgan if the band had “punk rock roots.” Corgan’s response:
None of us were really into punk rock. I loved punk music, but I wasn’t a fan in the sense that it influenced my writing. I grew up [with] a musician dad who was very critical of bands that couldn’t play their instruments. And part of what punk was about was that you don’t have to play well; you just have to feel right. I saw Bad Brains, 7 Seconds, and DOA. I loved them and thought they were great. But they never influenced me. There was a moment in time with Nirvana and Green Day when punk came into the mainstream. Everyone pretended to be into punk. But I didn’t want to pretend I was into the Clash because I wasn’t.
Corgan also talks more about the band Rush — specifically crediting Neil Peart’s lyrics as an influence — and he revisits the Zeitgeist marketing controversy. Perhaps most intriguingly, Corgan may have suggested that the second batch of songs from Teargarden by Kaleidyscope will not be released in the same manner as was the first:
[Cleveland Scene:] Do you really intend to release some 44 songs?
[Billy Corgan:] Yeah. I have more songs written, which is just absurd. The nice thing is that as I get some distance from them, I then realize which ones aren’t that great. The next EP comes out the day of the Cleveland show. I have four more songs ready to go and we’ll try to record some more in September and try to keep outrunning the train.
Smashing Pumpkins bring first tour since 2008 to Orbit Room in Grand Rapids
July 04, 2010
цитата:
Corgan said he expects it will take a few years to complete the ambitious project, which eventually will be released in some "comprehensive box set" form with a DVD.
цитата:
"I'm letting people watch me as I do it. I don't expect it to necessarily be understood. Music culture isn't built for something like this," he explained.
цитата:
"As songs come out over the next few years, you'll see a musical progression of where I'd like to end up. It's more of a musical journey, the album. Every song is not meant to be perfect."
Пост N: 10294
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Отправлено: 07.07.10 09:09. Заголовок: Billy Corgan on Smas..
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Billy Corgan on Smashing Pumpkins' Early Years, Free Music, and the Rotating Lineup
By Christine Borges
Tue., Jul. 6 2010
The New Times is only so big. As much as we'd like to temporarily convert it into the Smashing Pumpkins New Times in honor of their sold out show at Revolution on July 20, we can't (hey, believe me, I tried!).
Instead, here's a preview of some of the stuff Billy Corgan had to say that didn't make it to print, about the early years of touring with Pearl Jam and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, why he's decided to release his music for free, track by track, and getting back into loud guitars. Oh, and in case you want a preview of what the July 20 show will be like, we found two videos of his first small venues show at the Viper Room in Hollywood. We're good like that.
New Times: What were you going for with the new stuff?
Billy Corgan: I'm very into production and recording and stuff like that, but I think at some point you can get so lost in that that you lose sort of the let's just call it the groove or the underneath feel that makes someone wanna shake their hips kind of thing. Like the Rolling Stones have always been good at that. They always have that kind of feel in their music. So I kind of just wanted to get back to that kind of just that basic feeling. And sometimes I sacrifice maybe a little bit of production or song or whatever to get that feeling. For me it was just a place to start where I could feel the rhythmic pulse of the music more then let's call it the intellectual pulse of the music.
Smashing Pumpkins was never really like "hip shaking" kind of band, though. I felt like it was more of a jumping up and down kind of band.
Well this is my white suburban version of hip shaking, you understand [laughs]. It's not the same as James Brown, let's put it that way.
So then if you're doing it this way where you're releasing all the songs for free, did you get the inspiration behind Radiohead's In Rainbows?
We actually put out an album for free in 2000, Machina 2. Not sure if you know that situation. We put out a second version of that album [Machina] with different songs. Now we released that for free in 2000. Generally speaking, people consider it the first big free album. So I went through that experience in 2000 and what it was like to put out music for free, and there were good things about it and bad things about it. And of course I watched what happened when Radiohead did that. For me it's a personal decision based on how I want to live my life. It's really confusing to me when someone says they're a fan and they own four albums, but they don't want to buy the new album, you know what I mean?
So why release each album track by track? Any idea on when the full album will be released?
Umm... No, because I'm basically going to put out the songs as they come. The track by track thing for me was I just got sick of putting all of this energy making an album, then working with the record company, having them put out one single. And when the single didn't do what they wanted it to do... In our case, generally speaking, our singles would be successful, they just wouldn't be successful enough, then the record company would abandon them. So we'd be sort of sitting there with a whole album, the songs weren't getting played on the radio, we couldn't get any money for a video, so what are we supposed to do? I got sick of that. I got sick of some sort of angry dad telling me what I could and couldn't do. So for me it's about being in a place where all the choices are mine. I used to get really frustrated with fans and when stuff would come up and they'd ask me certain questions like, "Why'd you do this?" And I'd just say, "Oh, man, you just don't understand how fucked up the record business is. You're giving me shit about some dumb thing over here, you don't know what I've gotta go through even just to get this music out." So I got sick of that conversation. So I thought, "Right, I'm just gonna get rid of that." So now when a fan comes up and complains, they're coming up to the person to complain to.
A lot of times I think it has to do with loyalty. They're just so attached to the original lineup that they're scared of listening to the new members. They're scared that they won't do the band justice.
Yeah, well, I dunno. I'm just a different person. Like I'm a fan of Neil Young, right? So anything Neil Young puts out, I buy. And sometimes I listen to it and I don't understand it, and I just set it aside and I come back to it three years later. But I buy it because I'm a fan of the artist. I don't understand fans who have four albums and come to 14 shows but won't buy the new album, because to me they're making a pretty big decision over 15 dollars, like they'll pay five dollars for a latte. But I had to get away from that. Now there's no excuse. If you want to hear the new music, you just go get it, there it is for free. And if you don't like it, then that's okay. But I'm counting on the fact that the more people hear it, they'll like it because they know that it's good. So I'm gonna go with that for now.
Yeah, 'cause you're doing it the way you want to do it.
Right, but what I'm saying is if they don't like the way I'm doing something, then at least I'm saying, "Yeah, well I did it for this reason," or "you and I just disagree about what that means." It's not like I'm sitting there feeling like frustrated because they fucked me on this side over here and the fan doesn't understand.
This has nothing to do with me, but this is just like a funny story. We're on a tour in 1992 I believe it was. It was Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins and Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam's album had just come out, and they put out their first song, which was "Alive," and it was doing okay but it wasn't doing amazing. It was doing okay. And I walked into their dressing room at some point or something and they all had sad faces on. And I said, "What's going on?" And they were like, "We just found out that the record company is gonna pull all our money and we may even have to cancel the rest of the dates on the tour for us." And this was a successful tour. Chili Peppers had "Under the Bridge" and it went on to be a very big album for them. And it was a lot of energy, the tour was very exciting. And I was like, "Wow, that's incredible" and they were like, "Yeah, we don't know what to do." And of course like a week later, MTV added "Alive" and it became a massive hit. But I actually saw it happen with another band which obviously went on to be very successful. Of them sitting there going, "What the fuck are we gonna do?" And that's the part that a normal fan... it's not their problem, but a normal fan doesn't understand those moments in a musician's life where you put yourself in a situation because you don't have the resources, you don't have the access to the media or whatever, and you're counting on somebody to really follow through, and you put your best into it, you made a good album, and they decide for whatever fucked up reason they're into that day that they're gonna put their money into a dance band or something. That's the part that success doesn't always measure is the opportunities that you have or don't have within the record system. So for me, getting out of the record system has taken me back to being a happier person, and I think that'll have a positive effect on the way that the fans, the concerts, the music will come across. Because I'm not in that space of feeling like somebody's got a gun pointed to my head half the time.
Of course because -- for lack of a better word -- you're not waiting for "the man" to decide what you're gonna do next.
That's exactly what it was like from 1990 to 2008 for me. So for 18 or 19 years I literally felt like I was waiting for the man or a man or a woman to decide -- depending on what side of the bed they got up on that day -- whether or not they were gonna support my band or what I was doing. That starts to drive you crazy. That starts to drive you fucking nuts.
Barring that, I think you guys were still really successful. Especially with Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, that you guys had so many big singles out of it.
No, no, it's... we were able to work within the system, but we always felt really uncomfortable with it. I'm not saying we would've done better without it, I'm just saying we felt uncomfortable with the compromises that were being asked of us.
What inspired the change for you reflected in Adore that you're sort of straying away from now?
Yeah, well it was a very difficult period in my life. The biggest thing that happened was my mom died. And I just didn't feel... I wasn't in any hurry to play loud guitar, you know what I mean? It just didn't feel right to me. I always see playing loud guitar as a fun thing. I grew up on heavy metal and stuff, so for me I associate playing loud guitar with heavy metal and having fun and playing solos and jumping around. After my mom died, I just wasn't in that mood.
I feel like your music had a big change aesthetically after you took that 2 year break after Jonathan passed away. And you did Adore. It was a much softer vibe from the Pumpkins.
Yeah, I mean. I've always tried to go after what I feel is best at the time and I'm sort of obsessive in that. I'm totally into it, and then when I'm done I want to get away from it. Right now I'm very much into guitar rock. Loud guitar... I'm having a great time playing loud guitars again.
Ziggy Pop
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Отправлено: 07.07.10 09:34. Заголовок: Here is some i..
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Here is some info regarding the 'soundcheck sets' at the various shows...Because of the different venues, unexpected delays with loading in gear, and hassles that can occur with anything from travel to miscommunication, we are not able to set a consistent time with regards to when some fans would be let in to see us play...I also want to ensure that Kill Hannah and Bad City get some kind of soundcheck, so all these factors will impact the duration and the start time...we expect to play at least 5-6 songs each day, and if things go well possibly a little more...No less than the first 20 people in line would be let in, and we will have some system where you wouldn't lose your place in line if you have to go back out of the building...We hope this will be a fun experience for everyone, I know we look forward to trying some of the new material...No audio or video taping will be allowed at these soundcheck sets, so please respect and honor our wishes on that...If things go well, we might let in a few people more.
Отправлено: 07.07.10 12:31. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop пишет: Ri..
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Right now I'm very much into guitar rock. Loud guitar... I'm having a great time playing loud guitars again.
ну-ну =)
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10315
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Отправлено: 07.07.10 13:05. Заголовок: Coma пишет: ну-ну =..
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ну-ну =)
ну а что не так?=) мы ж на концерты нового турне всё равно не попадём, а судить по песне Фрик я не буду насчёт "громких гитар" =)
Philosopher
Пост N: 1937
Откуда: Россия, Новосибирск
Отправлено: 07.07.10 15:05. Заголовок: Меж тем, появился пе..
Меж тем, появился первый бутлег,Live at Viper Room on 2010-06-30 - отсутствуют первые несколько песен, и качество дерьмо, слишком громко слышно трепотню публики =)) Доступно всё на тех же архивах. Барабаны мне по прежнему не нравятся, этому малышу нужно ещё учиться.
кстати, послушал Make it happen с недавней траснляции, песня крута, и в ней опять же чисто Звановское настроение, не знаю хорошо это или плохо
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10326
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Пост N: 10331
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Отправлено: 08.07.10 08:11. Заголовок: Some highlights from..
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Some highlights from the ustream chat with @Billy and friends for those who missed it:
-All band members were on at some point, mostly Billy and Nicole although Mike was there for a while also.
-Billy and Kristin made a few joking references to last night’s ukelele incident, and Billy gave a shout out to robochimp.
-Nicole’s favorite SP song is Luna, and they rehearsed it a bit but Billy thought it wouldn’t go with the rest of the setlist. I believe he said that after going through the show it might fit, but it was hard to hear him.
-The economic climate is keeping them from traveling to places like South America, said Billy upon many comments about “when are you coming to Chile/Brazil?”
-Billy mentioned possibly releasing some future songs on iTunes. The rest of this EP is already in the can, though.
-Songs from If All Goes Wrong (99 Floors, Gossamer, and Peace+Love were mentioned specifically) are not part of the TBK project and will most likely not be recorded, although there is a partially finished Gossamer demo from the Zeitgeist sessions.
-Mike Byrne loves Mountain Dew and video games, both old-school and new. He was exhausted after the show last night (specifically mentioned Gossamer being very long) and had no trouble sleeping on the tour bus.
-Billy thought Nicole and Mike had a good show last night, but said that he and Jeff had a harder time. He thought the show went ok and that the audience was good, especially with it being so hot.
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Billy says they will not be recording Gossamer, 99 Floors, Peace+Love, etc… He considers them part of the If All Goes Wrong project, not Teargarden, and are thus “rear view mirror at this point”. He says they did a half-complete version of Gossamer for Zeitgeist, but never really got it together.
вот это жаль конечно, моя мечта насчёт студийной версии Gossamer теперь окончательно похерена... интересно было бы послушать наполовину законченную версию, которую они записали ещё во время Zeitgeist-cессий, да только ж где её возмёшь
Andy
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Пост N: 4206
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Отправлено: 08.07.10 09:14. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop пишет: во..
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вот это жаль конечно, моя мечта насчёт студийной версии Gossamer теперь окончательно похерена...
Да и ладно, у нас есть очень крутой шестиканальный лайв на DVD. Неплохо было б и все остальные песни того периода в таком качестве заиметь. Что-то вроде Earphoria II с треклистом как на этом бутлеге:
1. The Rose March (live 07) 2. Superchrist (live 07) 3. Peace And Love (live 07) 4. No Surrender (live 07) 5. 99 Floors (live 07) 6. The Leaving Lament (live 07) 7. If All Goes Wrong (live 07) 8. Psalm 131 (live 07) 9. Question Mark (live 07) 10. If Only In A Dream (live 07) 11. Mama (live 07) 12. I'm Doing The Best I Can (live 07) 13. Promise Me (live 07) 14. Gossamer (live 07)
Отправлено: 08.07.10 14:40. Заголовок: Andy это верно! но ..
Andy это верно! но у Лысого то в закромах полюбому есть и версии лучшего качества, плюс та же песня Orpheus чё-то там, которая звучит периодически на Dvd If all goes wrong..
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10335
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Отправлено: 09.07.10 05:56. Заголовок: Andy пишет: у нас ..
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у нас есть очень крутой шестиканальный лайв на DVD
так-то да, но я мечтал о студийной версии Gossamer...
Andy
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Пост N: 4212
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Отправлено: 09.07.10 09:04. Заголовок: He also talked about..
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He also talked about releasing “some other things” soonish, said something about “different versions of some songs” and mentioned talking to iTunes about some exclusive stuff.
He also talked about releasing “some other things” soonish
ага, читал утром, что это Лысый подразумевает под some other? неужто Gish-архивы всё-таки выйдут, holy crap...
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10370
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Отправлено: 10.07.10 08:43. Заголовок: 2010
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Smashing Pumpkins settling into soundcheck-chat-concert routine
After privately working on a cover song and then playing new songs “My Love Is Winter,” “Zen Baby,” and “Blessed Mother” as part of their semi-public soundcheck, the Smashing Pumpkins plan to chat with fans at 7pm CT via Ustream from the Newport Music Hall in Columbus, where mercifully they will not deliver a ‘Special Acoustic Performance’ later tonight.
Ziggy Pop
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Отправлено: 11.07.10 07:15. Заголовок: 2010
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After club successes, Pumpkins face Louisville festival challenge
Having delivered very well received club gigs in Grand Rapids and Columbus over the last two nights, the Smashing Pumpkins take on the duty of big-stage headliner tonight at Forecastle Festival in Louisville. At 10:45pm local time (ET), the band will go on, following immediately after Bassnectar, Devo, and Cake on the primary West Stage.
Smashing Pumpkins rock Forecastle, head to Baltimore tonight
The initial reports are in from this past weekend’s Forecastle Festival in Louisville, Kentucky, and they’re good: The Smashing Pumpkins, who headlined the Saturday night festivities, played a 90-minute singles-heavy setlist to a crowd of thousands. St. Louis-based Eleven Magazine gushes:
The light show? Extraordinary. The music? Prodigious. Billy Corgan? Superhuman. What’s more to say?? I just watched my childhood god rock out about five feet away from my face while playing “Bullet with Butterfly Wings” (which I learned to head-bang to at age 7. Fun fact!) In sum: The only thing that could top seeing Smashing Pumpkins live, is if Kurt Cobain came back from the dead, reunited with Nirvana, and played a private show in my living room. Since that’s never going to happen, my life is pretty much complete after tonight.
And of course, the Pumpkins wasted no opportunity to curry favor with the locals, according to Spinner:
Corgan stopped to banter with the enthusiastic crowd and told an anecdote of asking someone earlier in the day, “What do they make here in Kentucky? They told me, bourbon, baseball bats, horses and hot Kentucky women.”
It also sounds like they turned on the romance for the festival-goers, “finish[ing] on the lush ‘Tonight, Tonight’ as helium lanterns floated into the night sky and over the Ohio River.” Sounds like a beautiful moment, if you can ignore the glow sticks that were getting tossed on stage. And newbie Pumpkins bassist Nicole Fiorentino summed up the show thusly: “ummm, Kentucky kind of rocked my socks off.”
After the show, the Pumpkins headed straight to Baltimore to rest and prepare for tonight’s show at Rams Head Live!. HU will also be visiting Charm City, so we should have a liveblog comin’ at you tonight! In the meantime, stream new crowd-pleaser “Owata” below, or relive this concert in full over at the Live Music Archive where a full recording has already been uploaded by an industrious taper!
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10390
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чуть подробней можно?=) новых бутлегов не слышал потому как. чё он там мутит? голос лажает? или пальцы кривые стали да по грифу гитарному ныне неправильно движутся?=)) поведай, старина, не стесняйся=))
Philosopher
Пост N: 1949
Откуда: Россия, Новосибирск
Отправлено: 13.07.10 18:54. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop Лысяо мног..
Ziggy Pop Лысяо многое из того что ты перечислил выполняет зато они играют Gosammer
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10410
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Откуда: Владивосток - лучший город земли нахуй
Concert review: Smashing Pumpkins at Rams Head Live 12 july 2010
Halfway through the Smashing Pumpkins' show at Rams Head Live last night, singer Billy Corgan asked the crowd what year it was.
"1979," the audience shouted, begging for the band's 1996 hit. It was not to be.
"Yeah, it sure ain't 1993," Corgan replied.
Corgan refuses to be labeled a relic, and last night's intimate club date was no hit parade. The '90s alt-rock pioneers never actually played "1979," though they did do "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" and "Tonight."
The show, which lasted more than two hours, was advertised as a tour through the Pumpkins' catalog, and that's what the band delivered. It was not a concert for the casual Pumpkins listener -- it was a performance for true fans ...
Here's a link to a photo gallery from the show.
The Pumpkins offered songs from nearly every album, starting with the lackluster new "Astral Planes." It was not the best way to get things rolling. The four players found their footing with the second song, "Ava Adore," settling into a dark, heavy groove.
With his shaved head and half-soft, half-searing voice, Corgan looks and sounds just like he did when the band broke out nearly 20 years ago. He's the only original member still touring with the group.
At the tender age of 20, drummer Mike Byrne was probably still in diapers when the Pumpkins released 1991's "Gish." Last night Byrne handled the sticks with skill, though he did rush several songs. Sporting a thick headband, he could have been the karate kid. Bassist Nicole Fiorentino had the low end on lock, and guitarist Jeff Schroeder offered solid fills and the occasional solo.
Make no mistake, it was still Corgan's show, and he snatched every opportunity to wail on his guitar, at times overpowering the rest of the band. It was a night of guitar worship, with fans bowing at the altar of The Bald One. Corgan was loving it. Early on, he stood with arms outstretched, assuming a benevolent, Jesus-like pose, facing his adoring fans.
Angst-ridden '90s tracks like "Cherub Rock" were just as biting and prescient now as they were when they first came out. One of Corgan's biggest strengths is his ability to be angry and vulnerable in the same breath, and that ability was on full display last night. Many of the newer songs, such as "A Song for a Son," lacked the same spark and momentum.
Something must have been in the air, because the crowd was feeling feisty. A few guys in the back were hurling obscenities and weird, funny heckles, and when Corgan paused in the middle of "Bullet With Butterfly Wings," the audience started booing. Guess they didn't want the tune to end. (It didn't.)
After playing "Perfect," Corgan and Schroeder started noodling around, teasing Jimi Hendrix songs and talking about the guitar legend. A fan near the front chucked a bottle or cup of water at the stage, aimed at Schroeder. Schroeder responded with a stream of insults, challenging the fan to come up on stage and fight him.
Keeping true with the night's theme, the Pumpkins' final encore was the epic, 18-minute song "Gossamer." The unreleased track began with sizzling guitar riffs, dissolved into a plodding stew and foamed up into a shred fest before Corgan finally put it to bed. The average Smashing Pumpkins fan were left scratching their heads while the hard core Pumpkin-heads were loving every guitar lick.
The show started at 9:53 p.m. and ended at 12:04 a.m.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10466
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Smashing Pumpkins to add more American tour dates in September
An update on the SmashingPumpkins.com homepage finds Billy Corgan in good spirits, sending his greetings from Richmond where they played earlier this week. He expresses his gratitude and appreciation for the reception the band has gotten thus far on this small club tour, stating that “the fans have been fantastic and so, so supportive, and with that kind of love coming our way the shows have gone very well.” He also drops this exciting hint:
It looks like we will be touring much of September in America in support of our new song [Teargarden track "Freak"]. Thanks so much to the radio stations that have already picked up on playing it! Because of that success we’ll be coming to a lot of familiar places/cities/stomping grounds. Those dates we’ll be getting announced real soon. So lots of good news ahead.
Meanwhile, the band is scheduled to play tonight in Charlotte, North Carolina at the Fillmore and HU’s own Jason will be on hand for the festivities, presumably updating via Twitter. Looks like he’s already scored a spot in line for soundcheck — exciting!
Ziggy Pop
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Отправлено: 19.07.10 15:33. Заголовок: Corgan Lashes Out at..
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Corgan Lashes Out at "Jerkos" Who Want to Hear Old Songs
почитал, Корган молодец, гнёт свою линию. Это самое главное.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10724
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Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 20.07.10 06:22. Заголовок: Billy Corgan talks t..
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Billy Corgan talks tour, criticism, songwriting approach
Tonight, Billy Corgan took a break from his antique shopping (totes jealous) to sit down with Kristin Burns for a live USTREAM audience and do a pre-show interview in Orlando. He took some interesting questions from the fans in the peanut gallery, so if you missed the broadcast, you should check out the recorded video here. Check out my notes below for some of the highlights:
The Pumpkins have already written 10 or 11 new songs, but have only played 5 or 6 of them in soundcheck. Corgan states that the rest are more appropriate for album-style tracks, not so much for the live setting. He’s looking at October as the next time they’ll be in the studio, and seems excited that all members will participate in the recording.
As far as what’s been worked up for the current tour: they tried out approximately 50 (!) vintage Pumpkins songs for this show, but aggressively curated down to the current setlists. More specifically, he stated that they worked up an alt-rock-y version of Raindrops + Sunshowers, but had doubts about the audience reception. Tristessa and GLOW were considered (and Tristessa was played), but ultimately didn’t make the current rotation.
Regarding audience feedback from soundcheck, Corgan talks at length about how he is rarely under the illusion that a song is better than it is. He has a very critical stance on his own songs, and oftentimes doesn’t disagree with the critics, but disagrees with their methods of evaluation (e.g. comparing new songs to old work, balance and diversity on a given record). He cites the critical reaction to Zeitgeist as an example, and elaborates.
Corgan also explains how every era has its own songs that were left off the album, or didn’t feel like they fit into the era in which they were created. He discusses “Drown” as an example of a Gish-era song that was more like Siamese Dream, but serendipitously saw release on the Singles soundtrack. This leads to a discussion of his approach to songwriting in general, as a journey, creating songs along the path that may not be ‘great’ songs, but may be side trips to explore new ideas. He explains the idea that “effort does not always equal excellence” via the example of “Starla” — it was essentially written on a napkin and recorded in a day, and he considers it a payoff of this ‘journey’ approach to the Smashing Pumpkins’ body of work.
For more of Corgan’s thoughts about songwriting and his legacy and reputation as an artist, you’ll have to watch the full interview here:
Пост N: 10749
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Отправлено: 21.07.10 01:26. Заголовок: Billy Corgan, Smashi..
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Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins still explosive at House of Blues
When it comes to the current incarnation of the Smashing Pumpkins, the man is pretty much the band.
Lead singer Billy Corgan is all that’s left of the lineup that helped usher alternative rock into the platinum-selling mainstream in the early 1990s with blockbuster albums such as Siamese Dream. In an epic, sold-out show on Monday at House of Blues, Corgan proved that’s enough.
Armed with an arsenal of spotlights, strobes and production touches, the new edition of the Pumpkins somehow squeezed an arena-sized spectacle into the cozy music hall.
“I don’t know what kind of music is supposed to be played up here, but it’s not rock ‘n’ roll,” Corgan mused after an incendiary “United States” built on a mash-up of metal, ambient noise and woozy psychedelia that would be a challenge for any stage to contain. “It sounds so weird up here.”
For a solid two hours, Corgan and the current Pumpkins – guitarist Jeff Schroeder, bassist Nicole Fiorentino and drummer Mike Byrne – shifted effortlessly from expansive pieces into more tightly constructed gems such as “Perfect,” and “Widow Wake my Mind.”
The latter was among the solid new songs that also included the hypnotic opener, “Astral Planes,” which segued seamlessly into the throbbing bass of 1998’s “Ava Adore.”
It was one of the occasional moments that offered the other band members a chance to shine, opportunities that were handled capably, but without flash. In the end, the musicians seemed like hired guns, a perception heightened by the fact that Corgan didn’t bother to introduce them.
Ah well. The important thing: this unit is good.
Although the band savors its moodiness, the musicians rocked with impressive economy, especially on a taut, exuberant take on “Tonight, Tonight” that injected surprising urgency into a well-worn anthem.
There were also plenty of old-school rock riffs in the utilitarian 30-minute opening set by Bad City, part of an all-Chicago bill that also featured the more formidable and engaging Kill Hannah. The latter band expressed its reverence for the Pumpkins, a devotion that Corgan and company still deserve.
“”We ain’t going anywhere,” Corgan intoned over and over near the end of the night. When the result is this inspired, that’s good news.
Ziggy Pop
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Отправлено: 21.07.10 04:20. Заголовок: 2010
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Smashing Pumpkins at Metro next Tuesday for benefit concert
From a press release:
THE SMASHING PUMPKINS will perform a benefit concert next Tuesday, July 27 at Chicago’s Metro to raise money for medical care for Matthew Leone, bassist for Chicago band Madina Lake. Tickets will go on sale Wednesday July 21 [ed. tomorrow!] at noon.
Ticket distribution for this show is somewhat complex:
There will be a raffle for tickets. Individuals can enter the raffle as many times as they wish for $10 each entry. A majority of the venue will be sold to raffle winners. [...] There will also be a very limited amount of balcony VIP tickets put onsale for those fans who want to make a larger donation and ensure entry into this special event for $100 each. [...] Additionally, a limited amount of soundcheck VIP tickets will be available for $500 each. The soundcheck VIP event (approximately 30 minutes), set for the late afternoon, includes a meet and greet/photo with the Pumpkins and merchandise items, plus a seat at a table in the balcony for the show.
All proceeds from the raffle and concert will go to the Matthew Leone Fund at Sweet Relief. Sweet Relief Musicians Fund is a non profit 501(c)(3) organization provides financial assistance to all types of career musicians who are struggling to make ends meet while facing illness, disability, or age-related problems.
For more information on Sweet Relief, visit www.sweetrelief.org.
Пост N: 10760
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Отправлено: 21.07.10 12:37. Заголовок: Pumpkins will headli..
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Pumpkins will headline Denver radio-station festival on Sept. 18
The Smashing Pumpkins’ hinted-at September run of U.S. concert dates started to become reality yesterday as KTCL-FM in Colorado’s capital city announced the lineup for its “Big Gig 2010.” The Pumpkins are supported by fellow Chicagoans Chevelle, Denver’s own Flobots, and others. A ticket presale is this Friday and the full onsale is Saturday.
Philosopher
Пост N: 2009
Откуда: Россия, Новосибирск
Отправлено: 21.07.10 14:52. Заголовок: Sleater-Kinney тоже ..
Sleater-Kinney тоже доставляет
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10788
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Smashed Pumpkins: Billy Corgan battles to keep the legacy alive
Thursday, July 22, 2010
By Scott Mervis, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
So you think the 10-song album format is not relevant anymore?
I think it's been destroyed. I understand why people are still doing it because they don't know what else to do. But it's destroyed. I don't see how that means anything anymore. And I realize if you print that, some guy's going to go, "Well, I love Johnny and the Toads' "Forest" album.' No, I'm not trying to throw a blanket over everything. I'm just saying, generally, people are not that interested. Why we keep insisting collectively as the music world, keep shoving something down people's throats that they obviously don't want, I don't get that. We're not talking about like it's been a couple bad years. We're talking where it's been over 10 years now.
If you were talking about sandwiches or cookies, do you think they would last that long in that kind of thinking? It's a preciousness that isn't needed. Just figure out how to get people what they want when they want it. Maybe it's about putting out 40 songs a year, maybe it's not about producing everything perfectly. Maybe you produce the best song you can produce perfectly and the other five songs you just run in the studio and cut in a couple days. Maybe it is the DIY model at the end of the day. For the Christina Aguileras of the world who, it's about being perfect, well then, that's fine. But for the rest of us, I don't see how that works anymore.
What's the time frame on these 44 songs and releasing this physical product?
I'd say right now we're probably in the four-year range. The touring slows things down a little bit and trying to align ourselves with the reality of how to market the stuff in a very real way. The fanbase is really impatient for me to put out this music. But I'll give you a perfect example. I played a show the other night and there were probably 1,500 people there. I said, "I'm going to play a song now called 'Widow Wake My Mind,' it's available for free on smashingpumpkins.com, so hopefully some of you know it." I said, "How many people actually know we're putting out songs for free?" and only a third of the audience raised their hands. The message is they're there, they're interested, they bought a ticket, they don't even know it's there.
They're coming 'cause they loved "1979" way back when...
Doesn't matter. I got them in the door and I have that opportunity, and obviously if I play a good show the likelihood of them finding out is going to go up. I'm not mad about that. It makes me scratch my head like "How do I get this information out to people?" You say, oh, if it's free, people are going to know about it. No, it's not. There's so much information. Even if someone reads it, they don't necessarily retain it four hours later when they're arguing with their friend. Life moves on, life moves really fast. What I don't want to do is keep throwing songs into a vacuum to the 5,000 people that pay attention every day, who follow the ups and down and argue about the color of my hat.
Do you think people figure "I have so much Smashing Pumpkins music ... They made so much great music and I have so much of it." Then the need for more decreases.
What I think it is is if you keep doing the same thing, it limits the interest of why you want to go back. It's like seeing "Die Hard 4." The audience gets smaller because they already know how it ends. So I think you have to prove to the audience that you've moved on. And if you look at other people's success where they've had major comebacks -- U2, Elvis and plenty of other people -- it's usually because they find something new in their music. And so the indication right now is, it's still a very early stage. I seem to be finding something new and the audience is responding to that. If I can turn that corner and prove there is a whole new rich vein of music I'm tapping into in a way that doesn't alienate people but makes them say "Oh, this is why I liked them in the first place," that's my responsibility.
If you keep putting out the same songs, why would you want to hear it? You can just go back to the old stuff. That's what I do. There's no judgment there on the audience. It's my job to go, "Hey I have something new to say." That's why I look at people like Neil Young. You watch them kind of wander in the wilderness for a while and you go, "Aw, man, what's he doing?" And boom, all of a sudden he finds a new way to do the Neil Young thing and you go "Aw, he's back," and you're right back there. I feel like I'm at the tip of the iceberg right now and I don't know where it's going, but it feels good.
Пост N: 10826
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 27.07.10 04:23. Заголовок: Spin.com to broadcas..
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Spin.com to broadcast Pumpkins concert tonight
Spin.com will broadcast the Smashing Pumpkins’ New York City concert tonight on its website at 8 p.m. EDT.
In celebration of SPIN’s 25th anniversary, the magazine is broadcasting five consecutive concerts live from New York City, including the Pumpkins’ show tonight at Terminal 5. The broadcasts will be filmed “in high-quality video from nine different camera angles.” Also participating are the Flaming Lips, the Black Keys, the National, and Spiritualized.
Пост N: 10828
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 27.07.10 04:59. Заголовок: критика
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Like the Smashing Pumpkins, there are two sides to the band's frontman Billy Corgan.
In the same way the Chicago-based alt-rockers mixed self-loathing grunge with arena-ready guitar solos and pop hooks during their rise to stardom in the 1990s, there is blase side of Mr. Corgan to counteract the iconic figure's love of the spotlight.
Both sides were on display Saturday night during a sold-out show at Mr. Small's Theatre in Millvale featuring the newest incarnation of a band whose only remaining original member is Mr. Corgan. The frontman was both the embodiment of a guitar hero -- spreading his arms and pushing out his chest like a holy man reveling in the adoration of his followers before ripping ear-splitting solos with his signature guitar tone -- and a musician resigned to the fact that his fans wish he would avoid new material in favor of songs he wrote 15 years ago.
Mr. Corgan complained to Rolling Stone magazine earlier this month about "jerkos" who wished the band would play all of the band's 1993 hit "Siamese Dream" on the band's current tour, but the Pumpkins chose songs from all across their lengthy discography -- from classics such as "Today" and "Cherub Rock" to recent free online downloads -- during their two-hour set Saturday.
If Mr. Corgan chose to reward his fans by playing the band's hits, he did so reluctantly. Most of these songs were note-for-note recreations of the studio versions -- the extended guitar solo on "Ava Adore" and the dark mood of "Eye" were exceptions, and two of the night's highlights -- and one could not help but sense an air of indifference from Mr. Corgan on such radio-friendly songs.
Yet Mr. Corgan also indulged at times in lengthy guitar monologues, filling the stone church at Mr. Small's with more noise than its cozy setting could handle. The band seemed to find a middle ground with its newest batch of songs, which although not as memorable as the hits, rocked hard without overwhelming the audience.
Much like the band's original lineup, Corgan was the dominant figure, with newly added 20-year-old drummer Mike Byrne a distant second. Wearing a white headband that made look like an extra from the movie "The Karate Kid," the baby-faced Mr. Byrne drove the music with powerful fills reminiscent of longtime Pumpkin Jimmy Chamberlain. Jeff Schroeder and new member Nicole Fiorentino were non-factors on rhythm guitar and bass, respectively, and seemed content to play their parts while showing no energy of any kind on stage.
Smashing Pumpkins heading to South America in November
The Smashing Pumpkins have announced the first confirmed date of their planned South American tour: November 20 at the Planeta Terra Festival in Sao Paulo, Brazil.The band tweeted the announcement this morning, and Rolling Stone Brazil reported it shortly afterward. A flurry of Twitter activity led by Brazilian fans quickly followed. By lunchtime, “Smashing Pumpkins” had become the number one Trending Topic on Twitter internationally.
The performance will mark the Pumpkins’ first visit to Brazil since 1998. Also confirmed to be performing at the festival are English electropop band Hot Chip and French alternative rock band Phoenix. Tickets for the festival go on sale August 1st.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10892
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 29.07.10 16:37. Заголовок: Jahua пишет: никто ..
Jahua пишет:
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никто не в курсе?
х.з.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 10928
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 03.08.10 17:13. Заголовок: Зигги, они совсем ря..
Зигги, они совсем рядом :)
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 11013
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 03.08.10 17:33. Заголовок: ага, особенно когда ..
ага, особенно когда Север и Юг Кореи стоят на пороге ядерной войны. А до Сингапура лететь всё равно что до Бангкока, т.е. не близко. Да и вообще у меня уже другие планы=)
Лысый спел Пулю и кавер на Poison “Every Rose Has Its Thorn"
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BILLY CORGAN Covers POISON's 'Thorn' With CAMP FREDDY - Aug. 2, 2010
CAMP FREDDY — the Los Angeles-based "jam" group featuring Dave Navarro (JANE'S ADDICTION, RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS), Billy Morrison (ex-THE CULT bassist, current CIRCUS DIABLO vocalist), Matt Sorum (VELVET REVOLVER, ex-GUNS N' ROSES), Donovan Leitch (son of legendary folk singer Donovan), and Chris Chaney (JANE'S ADDICTION, ALANIS MORRISETTE) — made its sixth annual appearance at the X-Games/ESPN party in downtown Los Angeles. This year, the show was held Saturday night (July 31) at Nokia and the band brought two superstar singers to close its set. GODSMACK frontman Sully Erna rocked LED ZEPPELIN, ALICE IN CHAINS and SEX PISTOLS songs, while Billy Corgan (THE SMASHING PUMPKINS) brought the house down with a version of POISON's "Every Rose Has Its Thorn". He also sang the PUMPKINS classic "Bullet With Butterfly Wings".
The complete setlist was as follows:
01. Ballroom Blitz 02. In The Meantime 03. Surrender 04. Rebel Yell 05. Whole Lotta Love 06. Baba O'Reilly 07. Highway To Hell 08. Suffragette City 09. Bodies 10. Good Times Bad Times 11. Man In The Box 12. Every Rose Has Its Thorn 13. Bullet With Butterfly Wings 14. I Wanna Be Your Dog
In a recent interview with Gibson.com, Navarro was asked if there will ever be a CAMP FREDDY album. "We talked about it for many, many years, but the logistics of something like that really doesn't translate to what we're about," he replied. "We're a live band and we're about the fun on stage and whoever's gonna get up with us — we don't know from night to night. And when you go into a studio to record songs that have already been recorded, it's difficult to recreate that kind of energy and spontaneity, so it's unlikely at this juncture."
CAMP FREDDY in 2008 parted ways with Los Angeles' acclaimed Indie 103.1 radio station, which has aired the band's weekly show every Saturday for nearly five years.
Since its formation seven years ago when they rocked the opening of The Standard Hotel in Downtown Los Angeles at the invitation of Brent Bolthouse, CAMP FREDDY has performed on both coasts of America and on national television shows ("The Tonight Show with Jay Leno", "Jimmy Kimmel Live!", "Late Late Show With Craig Kilborn", "Last Call with Carson Daly").
Desire
Пост N: 1782
Откуда: Россия, Подмосковье
Отправлено: 04.08.10 18:52. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop пишет: ты..
Пост N: 4231
Info: www.myspace.com/maxdawncat
Откуда: Леса Подмосковья
Отправлено: 05.08.10 20:25. Заголовок: Early this morning, ..
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Early this morning, Billy Corgan hopped on UStream for an impromptu chat session.
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- It was just Billy and Kristin. - Billy joked about how he (and then Kristin) would take their tops off if they got to a hundred viewers (they didn’t) like those “sex cam videos”. Clearly BC knows what he’s talking about there. - A couple of times BC mentioned how he and Jeff had been discussing a new release method for TBK, but he wouldn’t say any more about it. - The next song will be released “soon”, but again no real indication how long that means. - After being asked for a clue about what the next song is, Billy said he couldn’t give a clue cos then everyone would know which song it was. - Plans for touring Aus/NZ, as well as the UK, and going back to Asia later in the year. - There will be no more soundcheck party shows with new songs. BC said it was great to get to try out the new material in front of a small crowd, but it was too hard on his voice. - The band plan to record again in October. - When asked about what he was listening to/last record he bought, etc. Billy got really uptight and didn’t want to answer. Saying things like “most people don’t listen to music the way I do, so they wouldn’t understand”. Some guy in the chat said “most great musicians have shit taste in music anyway” and BC got pissed off. - Someone else asked if Jeff and Nicole would be playing their parts in the studio, Billy dodged this question (I think it was this question – he didn’t actually read a question out before) by saying “people who have been fans a long time should know there’s certain questions I just can’t answer”. - The box sets/album re-issues are held up by EMI being pricks, apparently. Doesn’t seem likely any time soon. The album tours would coincide with these, if they ever happen. - BC talked again about how great the chemistry with this new band is, how much fun they’re having etc. He says it’s the first time he’s actually hung out with the band since Gish/SD era. Mike is so excited about everything everywhere they go. (He said he hung out with the band in the Zwan days, but that was “different”…) - The logistics of touring mean they didn’t break even on the tour they did in the States recently, and that’s why they can’t go to as many places as they used to in the MCIS days. - Continuing on that topic, BC mentioned how he’s thought about one day doing a solo acoustic tour, where he would play songs from all eras including Chicago Songs, Zwan, etc. as well as SP. But the problem with that would be getting a crowd to stay quiet enough for it – he cites the mainstream fans wanting to see the hits as a restriction on what he feels able to play. He also mentioned how hard it was just to get the record release crowd to be quiet, so why try at other bigger venues? - After the questions about who would be playing in the studio and what he was listening to, he got more annoyed and started saying he had to go – if anyone had any questions he could answer then they should ask them now. There wasn’t much more, but the same guy who asked about what he was listening to kept coming back with stupid comments, so BC eventually got pissed off and just said goodbye and ended the chat.
Пост N: 11033
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 08.08.10 15:53. Заголовок: Freak videos in ..
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Freak videos in the works, no more soundcheck parties
Early this morning, Billy Corgan hopped on UStream for an impromptu chat session. I was only able to catch a few minutes of it before heading to work, but during that time Billy revealed that the band is working on two videos for Freak – at least one of which will be filmed by Kristin Burns – tentatively scheduled for release on or around September 1st.
In other news from the chat, the band will not be holding any more soundcheck parties when they return to the US for their tour of the western states. Corgan was appreciative of the fans who lined up early and was able to get some good feedback about the songs, but the additional sets ended up being too hard on his voice.
If you watched the rest of the chat, leave a comment about anything that I missed. Hopefully the recording will be available soon on the band’s Ustream channel.
1 сентября выходит клип на песню Freak, режиссёр Кристин Бёрнс
Philosopher
Пост N: 2032
Откуда: Россия, Новосибирск
Отправлено: 08.08.10 16:22. Заголовок: мне уже страшно htt..
мне уже страшно
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 11036
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 08.08.10 16:22. Заголовок: Billy Corgan believe..
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Billy Corgan believes in Lady Gaga
"I believe in my heart that @LadyGaGa is going to positively help shift the world for the better. She is a messenger OF God's Love and Grace"
посмотрел, хуита какая-то. Лучше б сами снимали клип, как на песню Superchrist, имхо
но это только лишь первое впечатление, подождём до 1 дня осени...
Zero
Админ
Пост N: 3557
Откуда: Россия, Пенза
Отправлено: 09.08.10 12:17. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop пишет: 1 ..
Ziggy Pop пишет:
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1 сентября выходит клип на песню Freak, режиссёр Кристин Бёрнс
а нахрена там написано что снимают 2 видео! им типа одного клипа кало чтоли?
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 11059
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 09.08.10 12:37. Заголовок: Zero Зерыч, там ж..
Zero
Зерыч, там же написано, шо одно видео будет снимать Кристин, а вот насчёт второго тишина пока. Может потом из 2-х вариантов выберут лучший, х.з., это ж шиза видать в голове у Коргана зашевелилась с новой силой, кто его знает
Zero
Админ
Пост N: 3558
Откуда: Россия, Пенза
Отправлено: 09.08.10 12:43. Заголовок: Ziggy Pop пишет: Мо..
Ziggy Pop пишет:
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Може потом из 2-х вариантов выберут лучший, х.з., это ж шиза видать в голове у Коргана зашевелилась с новой силой, кто его знает
да никто наверно никогда не поймет че щас в бошке у лысого.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 11067
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 09.08.10 16:56. Заголовок: у него? новый концеп..
у него? новый концептуальный альбом с длинным названием, пока вроде всё
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 11075
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Пост N: 11076
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 10.08.10 00:47. Заголовок: япона-мама
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Summer Sonic Tokyo review
10:57 am // Monday, August 9, 2010
Since I’m never awake/at home when the rest of the crew does their podcasts, I figured I’d post a review from way over in the land of the hot, humid, rising sun. Seriously- it barely goes below 30 at midnight lately (that’s 86 for you Fahrenheiters). Warning- it’s very rambly…
After meeting up w/ a couple other fellow webmaster friends, catching the a-ha set, & eating, we headed over to the Mountain Stage, which was the biggest of the indoor stages. Richard Ashcroft had just started his last song (Bittersweet Symphony), so we wandered up to the front-most gated area to wait for the people who’d be leaving to leave. Only about half of them did, so we pushed up as far as we could along the right edge, directly in front of/under the right stacks. Once the lights went down, we gained another 10 feet or so as everyone pushed forward again, and I was quite glad we were on the edge, since the middle section got pretty hot & violent. Also, the fences they were using to section off the areas had a 1 or so base that stuck out a foot or two, so we gained a slight height advantage as well, which helped quite a bit, considering the height of the stage, the number of taller people around compared to most Japanese shows, and the percentage of the show everyone had their hands up.
Le Set:
1.Astral Planes 2.Ava Adore 3.Hummer 4.As Rome Burns 5.A Song For A Son 6.Today 7.Bullet w/ Butterfly Wings (2 false starts) 8.Eye 9.United States 10.Love is the Sweetest Thing [Ray Noble] 11.Owata 12.1979 13.Stand Inside Your Love 14.Tarantula 15.Tonight, Tonight 16.Cherub Rock
Hummer was a nice semi-rare treat- having checked, I’ve apparently actually heard it 3x already (at 3 of the 4 Fillmore shows I attended), but hey, who’s counting? :P” Before Today, he said “OK, we’re gonna play an old song now…” (cheers) “Oh, you like the old songs?” (cheers) “OK, I don’t wanna play the old songs, nevermind.” (confused semi-cheering) “You know this song, I think.” After that, he started to play the Bullet riff, but realized he’d forgotten to switch guitars, so it was 1/2-step sharp. After switching, he’s like “Oh yeah, there we go” & started again, but apparently everyone else still wasn’t ready, ’cause he stopped again, & then finally started over, with the rest of the band coming in after the first line. I LOL’d inside my head as I imagined Jason cringing at the 2 “(abandoned)”s in the spfc setlist- which, ha ha, I see have already been removed. Touche.
Even though I’ve been rather lazy w/ keeping up with the new stuff (esp. the live-only songs- I hadn’t heard LitST[RN] :P” yet, and I still haven’t listened to the Backwards Clock songs >_<;), I managed to recognize most of the songs within the first second or two, with one major exception. As Rome Burns & Owata I semi-recognized from previous shows, although I wasn’t sure on the title right away. But Eye threw me for a loop completely. Even after reading/hearing here that “the new version of Eye freakin’ ROCKS!”, which obviously implies a change in arrangement, that first ~1:20ish sounded so familiar & yet not, that all I could do was write “SOUNDS LIKE THE CURE” on the other side of my notepad, which got frantic nods, until the main riff finally started. During the song, a couple guys made their way over to the side & jumped over the fence to leave… lamers. Oh, and despite the repeated signs on the screen saying no moshing, diving (crowd surfing), pushing, throwing bottles, etc., I noticed ALL of those activities plenty of times. Then again, so were taking pictures & recording *cough*, which were also mentioned on the Things Not To Do screen, but at least those don’t physically hurt anyone. :P”
After US, the rest of the band went off while Billy got his ukulele on, and started strumming a few notes, eliciting cheers, and then finally getting different sections to cheer, to which he’d react according to the level of sound- apparently the left side was better. :P” The rest of the band watched, laughing & grinning, from the left side before coming back out for Owata & the rest of the set.
After they headed off, the crowd continued to cheer for a good minute or so (although I didn’t hear the usual en-co-ru chant), then Billy came back out & thanked everyone, then said something about the next song being about the power of rock, before launching into Cherub Rock. I’m not sure if the extended-single-drumroll intro is a new stylistic/arrangement choice, but I’m kinda missing the extra bass kick. Oh well.
After the show, I saw a crew member that looked rather familiar (except for a change in hair color from reddish-brown to grey), so after a bit of prodding from The Girl, I finally went up & asked “Didn’t you work on the 2000 tour?” Sure enough, it turned out to be the lighting guy from back then. Talked a bit about the band- he asked what we thought of it, & then said he thought it was the best they’ve been, since they “didn’t really have a decent rhythm guitarist or bassist before”, and that Jimmy had to over-compensate for it (which he said he’s told Jimmy himself, too)… so now that everyone there is a solid musician, the band’s a lot tighter… which I must say I have to agree with. While I never thought of James’ or D’Arcy’s playing as particularly bad (except for D’Arcy’s on the Arising! tour, just before she quit/left/was fired, but after she’d obviously already checked out mentally/motivationally), it’s pretty obvious Jeff’s a lot more skilled, technically, at least. Actually, I’m not sure if it was just from being over in front of the right stacks, but most of the time I could hear Jeff’s guitar over Billy’s. Or maybe it’s always been pretty high up, and I’m only noticing it now that I’ve started playing guitar again, & am watching their fingers more closely. But anyway.
Although I didn’t notice it at the time, apparently a few people were yelling “What about James? What about D’Arcy?” To which I recite an old ams-p favorite: “Oh, go cry over your copies of Gish & Siamese Dream.” Seriously, it’s been 10 years, people. Get over it. Of course, this was at least partially made up for by the fact that you can clearly hear someone during the last banter break yelling “JACKBOOT!” lol. Oh, if only.
Anyway. Two more Tokyo shows coming up! Dunno if I’ll be able to write as much about those, but LMA entries coming as soon as I figure out how to tag FLACs. :P”
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 11079
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Smashing Pumpkins to rock Idaho, Utah, Java, land of java
The Smashing Pumpkins have added three dates to their early September swing through the western United States. They’ll perform in coffee capital Seattle on the 10th, as well as potato place Boise on the 16th and, uhm, Salt Lake City the next day. Tickets for these three shows go on sale this weekend.
The Pumpkins also committed to revisit the Eastern Hemisphere in October, signing on to the Java Rockin’land festival in Jakarta. This would be the band’s first visit to Indonesia. The festival runs October 8-10, with the Pumpkins playing on the 8th.
Ziggy Pop
Пост N: 11147
Info: think for yourself, question authority
Откуда: Vladivostok, East Coast
Отправлено: 15.08.10 18:12. Заголовок: обещанного 4 года ждут=)
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As tour expands, “Teargarden” timetable stretches to 4 years
In a new interview with Daniel Robson of Spin magazine, Billy Corgan talks about the production of new Smashing Pumpkins album Teargarden by Kaleidyscope, puts down Pavement, and evaluates his band’s experiment in opening its soundchecks to small groups of fans. Corgan also acknowledges that, the way things are going, the 44 tracks of Teargarden will take longer to release than he initially planned:
[Daniel Robson:] How long will it take to release the entire album?
[Billy Corgan:] Probably about four years. Things are taking off right now so much that we’re getting a lot of demand to go on tour, so I’ve got to figure out when I’m going to record. Right now I only have three more songs done and waiting to be released, and I have probably 60 songs written.
Pumpkins extend U.S. tour with Kansas City amphitheatre slot
The Smashing Pumpkins will play at Sandstone Amphitheater outside Kansas City on September 25 as the headliner for a hastily assembled “Beach Ball” festival sponsored by KRBZ-FM.
No formal announcement has yet been made by the station or the band, but the Kansas City Star reported the Pumpkins’ appearance earlier today and Ticketmaster is now listing the show with an onsale time of Friday morning at 10am.
By way of comparison, last year’s “Beach Ball” (with Blink-182 and Weezer atop the bill) was announced on June 24 and took place September 4 — over a month of extra lead time relative to this year’s edition.
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